Самолёт Cri Cri.

[Lori]

Пенопластовые заготовки нервюр, вырезанные с припуском ~5-7 мм, термостабилизируются  (сутки при 70-75 градусах), затем обрабатываются в размер. Потом на стапеле с помошью четырех зубчатых реек (изготавливаются одновременно со стапелем, чтобы пропилы для нервюр в нем и рейках совпадали) собирается каркас и на нем же под вакуумом приклеивается передняя часть обшивки (~2/3 хорды). Затем каркас снимается со стапеля и под вакуумом приклеивается задняя часть обшивки.

Вот фото, на котором человек собирает крыло, можно понять конструкцию стапеля.

 

[Паша]

Спасибо!

 

[Andrey_K]

Нет ли новых фоток процесса сборки?

 

[Lori]

Установка направляющих для тросовой проводки руля направления.

 

[Leon CX]

Установка направляющих для тросовой проводки руля направления.

Лори,

А не хотите ли електромоторы поставить ? Как Жан-Люк ? http://www.jp-petit.org/nouv_f/avion_electrique/avion_electrique.htm

Он мне рассказал, что тягу сняли 100кг и его кри-кри "маленькая ракета" - а сравнить есть у него с чем, он Боингом летает в свободное от кри-кри время  ;D  ;D  ;D

Цитирую: "We count 3kg+/KW = not far away from 100kg static thrust for both @ full power.     YES it's a small rocket"  ;D

 

[Lori]

Пока нет, достроить бы самолеты. А дальше будет видно. Может к тому времени, как мы вылетаем ресурс имеющихся двигателей Solo, появятся аккумуляторы, позволяющие Кри-Кри летать значительно дольше сегодняшних 45 минут.
То, что скорость на электротяге в данном случае растет, это понятно. Уже уменьшение миделя мотогондол да отсутствие в потоке цилиндров и выхлопных труб должно ощутимо сказываться.

 

[Christian von Delius]

Lori-
Hello from the USA. I am a member of the Yahoo group cricridrawings. MC does not support North America, so we have formed our own group. It is exciting to see you are building a Cri-Cri, and with such quality. I do not speak Russian. I must use Google Translate to be able to understand, but I have read all 17 pages of posts. Excellent work. I am only starting to get materials for my horizontal stabilizer. We have aircraft at similar stages of construction to yours in New Zealand and Canada.
I have a plans set and am drawing them in 3-D in SolidWorks.
You can join our group by going to groups.yahoo.com and search for cricridrawings.
-Christian von Delius
Kalispell, Montana, USA

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http://www.alpineworldwide.com/alpine_global_cricri_project.htm

 

[Gennadij Khazan]

О парни из Штатов на ФОРУМ потянулись. То есть ГУД! 🙂

 

[Андрей Сердюков]

Не надо превращать ресурс в помойку. Выложенный материал по Кри-Кри запрещен к несанкционированному распространению и сообщение со ссылками на него было удалено модератором после соответствующего обращения.

О парни из Штатов на ФОРУМ потянулись. То есть ГУД! 

Лишь бы всё обошлось... :-?

 

[Christian von Delius]

I do not understand what you mean by this. The translation from Russian is not very good. Would you please say in different words? Are you glad that I am a member of this forum?
-Christian
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О парни из Штатов на ФОРУМ потянулись. То есть ГУД! 🙂

 

[Lori]

Christian,
It is glad you to see on our forum. It is good, that Cri Cri build and in Northern America. As my English language is bad, I too sometimes am helped by the computer translator. Thank for a high estimation of quality of our work. In work we too use SolidWorks, but only for some details (that it is better to understand their construction or to transform drawing to patterns). Thank for the invitation, to group cricridrawings I have subscribed.

"О парни из Штатов на ФОРУМ потянулись. То есть ГУД!" - "Guys from USA comes on our forum" - GOOD!

Кристиан,
Рад тебя видеть на нашем форуме. Хорошо, что Cri Cri строят и в Северной Америке. Поскольку мой английский нехорош, меня тоже иногда выручает компьютерный переводчик. Спасибо за высокую оценку качества нашей работы. В работе мы тоже используем SolidWorks, но только для отдельных деталей (чтобы лучше понять их конструкцию или получить выкройки). Спасибо за приглашение, на группу cricridrawings я подписался.

 

[Christian von Delius]

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Lori-
Thank you for your good response.
See one of our builders named Shannon in New Zealand, here:
http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com/forums/light-stuff-area/5622-cricri-mc-15-nz.html

-Christian

 

[Lori]

Christian, thanks. Very interesting site - Shannon's work is beautifull. Has especially interested a choice of brakes (Avid BB5) and building of a main landing gear.

Кристиан, спасибо. Очень интересный сайт - Шеннон красиво работает. Особенно заинтересовал выбор тормозов (Avid BB5) и процесс изготовления рессоры шасси.

 

[Андрей Сердюков]

Я являюсь членом cricridrawings Yahoo Group. МК не поддерживает Северной Америки, поэтому мы создали нашу собственную группу

Спасибо за приглашение, на группу cricridrawings я подписался.

Lori а как же Ваши принципы...?  😱 Ведь в группе cricridrawings есть прямая ссылка на "незаконно копируемые и распространяемые чертежи" --> Download Plans and Construction Manuals This is a secure website. User= "cricri", password= "yahoo4u!"
http://www.benefitscom.com/cricri/plans/... Или все Ваши потуги для удаления ссылок из копилки чертежей были просто "ПШИК..."? Или это наши "халявщики".., [highlight]а то американские!..?[/highlight] Я вижу для Вас есть между нами разница, раз Вы так "тепло" общаетесь... 🙁
Если Вы такой честный то будьте честным со всеми и до конца...  :IMHO
зы: Попросите их убрать ссылки и файлы...  ;D

 

[Lori]

Я вижу для Вас есть между нами разница, раз Вы так "тепло" общаетесь... 🙁
Если Вы такой честный то будьте честным со всеми и до конца... 
зы: Попросите их убрать ссылки и файлы...

Разница есть. У себя они могут жить так, как считают нужным, это их дело. А когда здесь восторженно гадят под ноги - мое. Бельды?

 

[Андрей Сердюков]

Разница есть. У себя они могут жить так, как считают нужным, это их дело. А когда здесь восторженно гадят под ноги - мое. Бельды?

А сам наверно в копилочку частенько заглядываешь..? НЕУБЕДИЛ...
Получается, по твоим понятиям, они тоже себе под ноги восторженно гадят...  🙁

А я думаю они просто строят самолёты... И у них неплохо получается...

"Все люди равны перед Богом и © и каждый вправе использовать по своему усмотрению и совести Веру и ©" 
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[Christian von Delius]

It is important to realize that Michel Colomban will not sell plans to the US or Canada. This is because our legal system is corrupt and greedy. I am sorry Mr. Colomban has suffered from unscrupulous and greedy people here, but his design is exceptional, and we have not other route to receive this design. But should we suffer to not build this excellent aircraft because of some unreasonable actions of a few that caused this danger? I have personally faxed a request to purchase plans to Mr. Colomban, which was not responded to. I continue my build of this Cri-Cri with plans I have acquired apart from Mr. Colomban. If you think bad of me for doing this, then you are entitled to your opinion, but I and others will build, with or without Mr. Colomban's support. I respect Mr. Colomban's design expertise; he is brilliant. And we as a group has safety as paramount. A lack of safety is what caused this problem in the first place. It is each individual's responsiblity of conscience to do the right thing. I thank Lori for sharing his enthusiasm, quality of workmanship and mutual support of other builders. There is another Yahoo group called CRICRI which argues about legal issues like this, but this is tiring, sad and unproductive; they do not build the aircraft, only argue; this I will avoid-I have said enough. cricridrawings worries not about issues such as these, and is specifically to support one another in our building aspirations, regardless of how we came to be interested in the Cri-Cri aircraft building project, or by which means we came to receive plans. That is irrelevant to the goal of building this aircraft in a safe manner. Hope everyone can see my point of view, even if you do not agree. You have the freedom to disagree. But I hope you all will build this amazing aircraft, and that we can fly side by side in formation some day.
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[ch1045][ch1089][ch1083][ch1080] [ch1074][ch1099] [ch1076][ch1091][ch1084][ch1072][ch1077][ch1090][ch1077] [ch1086][ch1073][ch1086] [ch1084][ch1085][ch1077] [ch1087][ch1083][ch1086][ch1093][ch1086] [ch1076][ch1083][ch1103] [ch1101][ch1090][ch1086][ch1075][ch1086], [ch1090][ch1086] [ch1074][ch1099] [ch1080][ch1084][ch1077][ch1077][ch1090][ch1077] [ch1087][ch1088][ch1072][ch1074][ch1086] [ch1085][ch1072] [ch1089][ch1074][ch1086][ch1077] [ch1084][ch1085][ch1077][ch1085][ch1080][ch1077], [ch1085][ch1086] [ch1103] [ch1080] [ch1076][ch1088][ch1091][ch1075][ch1080][ch1077] [ch1073][ch1091][ch1076][ch1091][ch1090] [ch1089][ch1090][ch1088][ch1086][ch1080][ch1090][ch1100], [ch1089] [ch1080][ch1083][ch1080] [ch1073][ch1077][ch1079] [ch1087][ch1086][ch1076][ch1076][ch1077][ch1088][ch1078][ch1082][ch1080] [ch1075]-[ch1085][ch1091] Colomban's. [ch1071] [ch1089] [ch1091][ch1074][ch1072][ch1078][ch1077][ch1085][ch1080][ch1077][ch1084] [ch1086][ch1090][ch1085][ch1086][ch1096][ch1091][ch1089][ch1100] [ch1086][ch1087][ch1099][ch1090][ch1072] [ch1087][ch1088][ch1086][ch1077][ch1082][ch1090][ch1080][ch1088][ch1086][ch1074][ch1072][ch1085][ch1080][ch1103] [ch1043]-[ch1085] Colomban: [ch1086][ch1085] [ch1103][ch1074][ch1083][ch1103][ch1077][ch1090][ch1089][ch1103] [ch1073][ch1083][ch1077][ch1089][ch1090][ch1103][ch1097][ch1080][ch1084]. [ch1048] [ch1084][ch1099] [ch1082][ch1072][ch1082] [ch1075][ch1088][ch1091][ch1087][ch1087][ch1099] [ch1073][ch1077][ch1079][ch1086][ch1087][ch1072][ch1089][ch1085][ch1086][ch1089][ch1090][ch1080] [ch1080][ch1084][ch1077][ch1102][ch1090] [ch1087][ch1077][ch1088][ch1074][ch1086][ch1089][ch1090][ch1077][ch1087][ch1077][ch1085][ch1085][ch1086][ch1077] [ch1079][ch1085][ch1072][ch1095][ch1077][ch1085][ch1080][ch1077]. 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[ch1057][ch1091][ch1097][ch1077][ch1089][ch1090][ch1074][ch1091][ch1077][ch1090] [ch1077][ch1097][ch1077] [ch1086][ch1076][ch1085][ch1072] [ch1075][ch1088][ch1091][ch1087][ch1087][ch1072] [ch1085][ch1072][ch1079][ch1099][ch1074][ch1072][ch1077][ch1090][ch1089][ch1103] Yahoo CRICRI [ch1082][ch1086][ch1090][ch1086][ch1088][ch1099][ch1081] [ch1088][ch1072][ch1089][ch1089][ch1091][ch1078][ch1076][ch1072][ch1077][ch1090] [ch1086] [ch1087][ch1088][ch1072][ch1074][ch1086][ch1074][ch1099][ch1093] [ch1074][ch1086][ch1087][ch1088][ch1086][ch1089][ch1072][ch1093], [ch1082][ch1072][ch1082] [ch1101][ch1090][ch1072], [ch1085][ch1086] [ch1101][ch1090][ch1086] [ch1091][ch1090][ch1086][ch1084][ch1080][ch1090][ch1077][ch1083][ch1100][ch1085][ch1086], [ch1087][ch1077][ch1095][ch1072][ch1083][ch1100][ch1085][ch1099][ch1081] [ch1080] [ch1085][ch1077][ch1087][ch1088][ch1086][ch1076][ch1091][ch1082][ch1090][ch1080][ch1074][ch1085][ch1086], [ch1086][ch1085][ch1080] [ch1085][ch1077] [ch1089][ch1090][ch1088][ch1086][ch1103][ch1090] [ch1089][ch1072][ch1084][ch1086][ch1083][ch1077][ch1090][ch1099], [ch1090][ch1086][ch1083][ch1100][ch1082][ch1086] [ch1089][ch1087][ch1086][ch1088][ch1080][ch1090][ch1100], [ch1101][ch1090][ch1086] [ch1087][ch1086][ch1079][ch1074][ch1086][ch1083][ch1080][ch1090] [ch1080][ch1079][ch1073][ch1077][ch1078][ch1072][ch1090][ch1100] [ch1103]-[ch1103] [ch1091][ch1078][ch1077] [ch1089][ch1082][ch1072][ch1079][ch1072][ch1083] [ch1076][ch1086][ch1089][ch1090][ch1072][ch1090][ch1086][ch1095][ch1085][ch1086]. cricridrawings [ch1073][ch1077][ch1089][ch1087][ch1086][ch1082][ch1086][ch1080][ch1090][ch1089][ch1103] [ch1085][ch1077] [ch1086] [ch1090][ch1072][ch1082][ch1080][ch1093] [ch1074][ch1086][ch1087][ch1088][ch1086][ch1089][ch1072][ch1093], [ch1082][ch1072][ch1082] [ch1101][ch1090][ch1080], [ch1080] [ch1089][ch1087][ch1077][ch1094][ch1080][ch1072][ch1083][ch1100][ch1085][ch1086], [ch1095][ch1090][ch1086][ch1073][ch1099] [ch1087][ch1086][ch1076][ch1076][ch1077][ch1088][ch1078][ch1072][ch1090][ch1100] [ch1076][ch1088][ch1091][ch1075] [ch1076][ch1088][ch1091][ch1075][ch1072] [ch1074] [ch1085][ch1072][ch1096][ch1080][ch1093] [ch1095][ch1072][ch1103][ch1085][ch1080][ch1081] [ch1079][ch1076][ch1072][ch1085][ch1080][ch1103], [ch1085][ch1077][ch1079][ch1072][ch1074][ch1080][ch1089][ch1080][ch1084][ch1086] [ch1086][ch1090] [ch1090][ch1086][ch1075][ch1086], [ch1082][ch1072][ch1082] [ch1084][ch1099] [ch1087][ch1088][ch1080][ch1096][ch1083][ch1080], [ch1095][ch1090][ch1086][ch1073][ch1099] [ch1073][ch1099][ch1090][ch1100] [ch1079][ch1072][ch1080][ch1085][ch1090][ch1077][ch1088][ch1077][ch1089][ch1086][ch1074][ch1072][ch1085][ch1099] [ch1074] Cri-Cri [ch1072][ch1074][ch1080][ch1072][ch1089][ch1090][ch1088][ch1086][ch1080][ch1090][ch1077][ch1083][ch1100][ch1085][ch1099][ch1081] [ch1087][ch1088][ch1086][ch1077][ch1082][ch1090], [ch1080][ch1083][ch1080] [ch1087][ch1086][ch1089][ch1088][ch1077][ch1076][ch1089][ch1090][ch1074][ch1086][ch1084] [ch1082][ch1086][ch1090][ch1086][ch1088][ch1086][ch1075][ch1086] [ch1084][ch1099] [ch1087][ch1088][ch1080][ch1096][ch1083][ch1080], [ch1095][ch1090][ch1086][ch1073][ch1099] [ch1087][ch1086][ch1083][ch1091][ch1095][ch1072][ch1090][ch1100] [ch1087][ch1083][ch1072][ch1085][ch1099]. 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[Lori]

А сам наверно в копилочку частенько заглядываешь..?

Да, к сожалению. Приходится терять время, проверять, не нагажено ли снова.

НЕУБЕДИЛ...

И не собирался. Был вопрос - я ответил. И впредь попрошу обращаться ко мне на "вы".

 

[Berkut driver]

Hey Christian  😡
stop apologizing for our Country!!
Why don't you ask here about Russian corruption in there legal system?
What you are some kind.... Obama supporter or just a
plain commy shmok!

PS
OK! you are excused! 🙂
Stay strong and keep you eye on the target! 😉

 

[Christian von Delius]

Not apologizing for our country. Only for the criminals like Chris Heintz who have gotten away with murder, and whiners who complain about where I got my plans, and lawyers who have taken advantage of people like Mr. Colomban. And I have gone thru two divorces, so I know about the corruption of the legal system here and the lack of morals. I don't support mr. NWO Obama, but I do support our president(s) when they act like Presidents. I just want to live in peace, build my projects and enjoy them, and if terrorists run across my front lawn or take control of my commercial aircraft, they will be sorry and ventilated.
PS. come here and say that.